Although Westman “really wanted to do a red lip” on Swift, the celebrity makeup artist had to get the seal of approval from the “Anti-Hero” singer’s mom, Andrea Swift, beforehand.

On the April 2 episode of Today with Hoda and Jenna, celebrity makeup artist Gucci Westman revealed that she created the 34-year-old singer’s iconic red lipstick for Allure's April 2009 cover.