Gavin Newsom made headlines by inviting conservative activist Charlie Kirk to be the first guest on his new podcast, “This is Gavin Newsom.” Now Kirk is speaking out about the experience of sitting down to talk politics with his ideological opposite,

Newsom's move into podcasting was seen as an effort to broaden his appeal amid ongoing speculation about a possible 2028 White House bid. The poll suggests that Newsom may risk backlash from liberal and left-wing voters while attempting to engage with MAGA figures such as Kirk and Steve Bannon on his show.

The governor's latest endeavor is a show coddling right-wing provocateurs. It's not only cringey, it's a glib diversion from the job he should be doing.