He didn't give up. In New York, he met with PBS producers, who also said no. They wanted a show about painting for kids, to ride the coattails of Bob Ross. Kistler pushed back on that idea ...

ITHACA, N.Y. — The City of Ithaca is a beautiful place highlighted by the show-stopping beauty of the Finger Lakes. But there are other things to draw your eye, like the amazing murals you can ...