Michael Shannon: Oh, what a lovely question. Well, I was a survivor, you know. I'd, you know, I'd say the years from like 12 to 16 were a real gauntlet. But I got through it. And in that period of ...

Actor Michael Shannon, known for Shape of Water and Boardwalk Empire, talks with Wild Card host Rachel Martin about how change is the only constant in his life.

Michael Shannon is best known for his acting roles in everything from "The Shape Of Water" to "Boardwalk Empire," but his latest roles are not on screen. His directorial debut, "Eric Larue" is out ...

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED NPR BROADCAST) MICHAEL SHANNON: When you act, you create these little societies or civilizations to create some piece of art, and then you finish, and they disappear.