Irvin says initially, in the Old Testament, hell was not about punishment -- that came later, with interpretations of the New Testament. "What about the Biblical references to heaven?" asked Teichner.

Then came their documentary ‘ American Pimp ’ (1999), followed by ‘From Hell’ (2001), and episodes for the TV series ‘ Touching Evil,’ on which Albert and Allen were executive producers.

With some glee, they divulge tales of hell-bent sexual "luxuriants," medieval ghoul braziers and the second-class celestial home of "the good but not very good." There's also visionary marzipan that ...